The experience of news as we knew it: a personal perspective
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People who don't live in Seattle may only just now be hearing about the demise of one of the city's two local daily newspapers, The Seattle Post-Intelligencer. It's the lede in the New York Times' coverage of the decline of newspapers in general. I've been following the news partly because my brother is in the business (he does event marketing for Newsday). He tells me that he still has a job--for now. But I digress. The direction in which news is going in Seattle is a little alarming. Just ask
varina8, the professional journalist, and she'll give you an earful.
I remember reading Newsday every single day, growing up on Long Island. As a kid, I didn't read much hard news, but all of the stuff in Part II--a combination of Living, Style, and Entertainment--was must-read stuff for me. (I didn't go a day, growing up, without Peanuts, B.C., Ziggy, and Ann Landers.) I came to hard news later, living in NYC and reading The New York Times every day with some Newsday on the side.
When I moved to Seattle, I was astonished to find that the local papers didn't really cover national news much. It seemed a little Mickey Mouse to me. And the locals I met early on disparaged both the Seattle Times (a shill for conservatives) and the P-I (referred to by some as the Seattle Public Insult). All of this lead me to continue using the NYT as my primary news source, with smatterings of news from The Stranger (one of our two local weeklies--the reporting is occasionally excellent but, with a few notable exceptions, often unreliable due to bias). It's only been the last five years that I've really started paying attention to the Times and the P-I. True, the Times is more conservative than the P-I, but each offers value and together they make a pretty good source for local news.
And now we're losing the P-I. The idea that the city will have only one local news source in print--and that, we're told, will rely mostly on AP reports and news from other aggregators as well--is just bizarre to me. It's alien in the way that being in a foreign country and stumbling onto some completely new and ferociously unappealing custom is alien. It flies in the face of everything I've ever learned or thought about monopoly and competition in the marketplace, the value of multiple viewpoints, the value of local news and more. And if the Times does rely on aggregators, then our only mainstream source of local news will be broadcast, The Stranger, and the Seattle Weekly, which I stopped reading quite some time ago--which should make things, um, interesting. I think it's a bad idea.
Now, I totally admit that I haven't done much of anything to support my local papers. I only read the paper versions occasionally. I've become much more dependent on the Web for getting my news. My bad. But there's the part of me that grew up on newspapers, commuted to work with newspapers and then had to wash my hands when I got to the office because they were so dusted and darkened with ink, that just rebels against the idea of losing newspapers altogether. For me, a lot of this--I admit--is as much about losing the experience of reading a newspaper as it is about the value of multiple news sources, the importance of local reporting and so on. It was a piece of growing up that I'm sorry to see diminish and that I fear disappearing. But times, they are a-changin', it's been coming for a while, and I've adapted to new media with nary a thought to what it's replacing.
Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone?
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I remember reading Newsday every single day, growing up on Long Island. As a kid, I didn't read much hard news, but all of the stuff in Part II--a combination of Living, Style, and Entertainment--was must-read stuff for me. (I didn't go a day, growing up, without Peanuts, B.C., Ziggy, and Ann Landers.) I came to hard news later, living in NYC and reading The New York Times every day with some Newsday on the side.
When I moved to Seattle, I was astonished to find that the local papers didn't really cover national news much. It seemed a little Mickey Mouse to me. And the locals I met early on disparaged both the Seattle Times (a shill for conservatives) and the P-I (referred to by some as the Seattle Public Insult). All of this lead me to continue using the NYT as my primary news source, with smatterings of news from The Stranger (one of our two local weeklies--the reporting is occasionally excellent but, with a few notable exceptions, often unreliable due to bias). It's only been the last five years that I've really started paying attention to the Times and the P-I. True, the Times is more conservative than the P-I, but each offers value and together they make a pretty good source for local news.
And now we're losing the P-I. The idea that the city will have only one local news source in print--and that, we're told, will rely mostly on AP reports and news from other aggregators as well--is just bizarre to me. It's alien in the way that being in a foreign country and stumbling onto some completely new and ferociously unappealing custom is alien. It flies in the face of everything I've ever learned or thought about monopoly and competition in the marketplace, the value of multiple viewpoints, the value of local news and more. And if the Times does rely on aggregators, then our only mainstream source of local news will be broadcast, The Stranger, and the Seattle Weekly, which I stopped reading quite some time ago--which should make things, um, interesting. I think it's a bad idea.
Now, I totally admit that I haven't done much of anything to support my local papers. I only read the paper versions occasionally. I've become much more dependent on the Web for getting my news. My bad. But there's the part of me that grew up on newspapers, commuted to work with newspapers and then had to wash my hands when I got to the office because they were so dusted and darkened with ink, that just rebels against the idea of losing newspapers altogether. For me, a lot of this--I admit--is as much about losing the experience of reading a newspaper as it is about the value of multiple news sources, the importance of local reporting and so on. It was a piece of growing up that I'm sorry to see diminish and that I fear disappearing. But times, they are a-changin', it's been coming for a while, and I've adapted to new media with nary a thought to what it's replacing.
Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone?
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Date: Thu, Mar. 12th, 2009 04:10 pm (UTC)I'm personally surprised that the P-I lasted as long as it did under the JOA.
(Since I grew up in the South Sound, we also read the News Tribune; IMO, it had better Mariners coverage than either of the Seattle papers anyway.)
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Date: Thu, Mar. 12th, 2009 04:42 pm (UTC)Can you tell I'm grinding my teeth as I write this? I learned to write working on the youth page of my local newspaper when I was still in junior high. And even though I realized in college that newspaper journalism wasn't for me, I'm still nostalgic for the smell of paste-up wax. I know the rise of Internet news has changed things irrevocably for the people who depend on newspapers to actually make money. But sometimes it seems as if the owners are doing their best to kill the papers off without any help at all.
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Date: Thu, Mar. 12th, 2009 04:46 pm (UTC)When you can get the exact same wire or syndicated content in multiple forms, what's the point of reading a specific paper?
What's depressing to me is that, in their steadfast refusal to adapt to changing technology, Luddite journalists are robbing the public. Journalists refused to use the Web until it was too late, and now there is little to no actual journalism there at all. They kept scoffing and dragging their heels, and characterizing digital information delivery as kids' stuff and somehow beneath them, and only hopped on when it became too powerful to ignore. By which time citizen media sources--largely untrained and ignorant of how real journalism works--had already taken over.
I decided to go back to school and get my j degree in part because I wanted to help reform the business itself. I wanted it to get away from the punditry-with-ads that it had become since the corporate takeovers and consolidated ownership of the '80s. It's definitely depressing to me that the collapse of local newspapers means it's going to be harder for me to find a real journalism job, and I hope that journalism itself isn't dying, as it appears to be.
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Date: Thu, Mar. 12th, 2009 05:02 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: Thu, Mar. 12th, 2009 05:57 pm (UTC)I realized I'd stopped buying the paper NY Times entirely a few years ago; I just read it on line. I was one of the handful of saps they actually got to pay for the online access to the columnists, etc, before they abolished that. But I too wonder how investigative journalism and foreign desks can be maintained when news is now essentially being given away for free.
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Date: Thu, Mar. 12th, 2009 05:58 pm (UTC)When we first moved into our condo we got a free trial subscription to the Seattle Times and then we got the same thing when we got our house. Each time it was a profoundly negative experience.
Aside from making my fingers filthy which I hate, there's the irrelevance. I only ever read one or two stories at most, making how much of a percentage of the rest of the paper a complete waste of time? The local things were things I wasn't interested in (not living actually in Seattle proper) and the national news were things I'd already heard about elsewhere. It's hyperbole to say I spent more time washing and drying my hands after handling the paper than I did actually reading it, but not by much.
I remember I thought the proper thing to do would be to use the websites instead. No ink, right? Unfortunately, at the time, both of their websites were just horrible. I can't remember which was which, but one had a dramatically ugly interface that made me to not want to go there ever ever and the other had a search engine that sucked so poorly I'm surprised it could find the word Seattle.
So I abandoned both local newspapers in toto. Clearly, these were two publications that did not want to compete in an open market.
I accidentally found out about NWCN when I was channel surfing and went to their website and it had interesting stories, an interface that while not world class at least didn't poke me in the eye and was, gasp, searchable. And it turned out their email bulletins for breaking storiesboth national and localbroke (still break) faster than any other news organization I've seen for both national and local newsincluding the Seattle Times for Seattle-related stories.
I still subscribe to the Seattle Times email bulletin just in case, but really there's no point. Half the stories are about sports (sports is not news) and the other half break well after both NWCN and CNN for national news.
Take the fact that Seattle's police chief is the new drug czar. How'd I learn about that? NWCN news bulletin which included a sentence about the fellow, then from CNN which included a sentence about the fellow, thennearly an hour after that#151;Seattle Times email bulletin which said nothing other than Chief [insert name I forgot] might become drug czar. Full stop.
Awesome work, guys. Waiting longer than anyone else for less information. Top quality.
And I recently (month or so ago?) subscribed to both ST's and the PI's Twitter feeds. ST's is actually pathetic, updating almost never, which I find kinda incalcuably silly since, I thought, news happens all the time, like when people are alive and not zombies. But even zombies would be up to something. The PI feed is good in that it's actually updated, but it's updated in big clots with five or six stories at a time, which is bad Twitter behavior.
Incidentally, the best Twitter feed for news I've found so far is BreakingNewsON (http://twitter.com/BreakingNewsOn), which in its quest to be first is the first to blurt out the very first thought in its head and then add detail later, so you're likely to get five tweets for one story over an hour. But, if you can stand that and story corrections as it unfolds, they have broad coverage of international news and events that far surpasses anyone else's feed, including CNN's. I learn things not only first but they're often the only feed that mentions things at all, particularly international events.
Wow, what a tirade.
The two papers lost for good reason: They're simply inferior compared to any other possible outlet for any kind of news or entertainment they cover.
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Date: Thu, Mar. 12th, 2009 06:03 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: Thu, Mar. 12th, 2009 06:33 pm (UTC)I'll miss the newspapers when they go. I haven't learned to read them online yet. I'll miss noticing stuff I'm not looking for just because it's on the same big page with stuff I want to know about.
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Date: Thu, Mar. 12th, 2009 11:48 pm (UTC)We cancelled our subscription to the P-I a few weeks ago. When I heard the news, I told M it was our fault. We should have held on a little longer. :-/
When we moved to Seattle, we were originally excited that there were two papers. We tried them out. We thought, whoa, The Oregoninan, it was awesome! But hey, you have to have a local paper. Soon, no one will have a local paper.
Not to be punny, but the times, they are a-changing. It's not just newspapers.
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Date: Fri, Mar. 13th, 2009 04:49 am (UTC)Some local blogs (Capitol Hill (http://www.capitolhillseattle.com/), Phinneywood (http://www.phinneywood.com/), Ballard (http://www.myballard.com/)) are already trying to fill the gap. The Stranger has the staff and the clout to move into the gap, but for me, it would take some effort to build up its credibility (a few too many Borat-like features have left me suspicious). Crosscut (http://crosscut.com/) might also help fill the gap, but the bulk of their current coverage is pretty stodgy.
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